Hi Everyone - I'm new to the forum, and I hope I can make my first post a good one...

I have been researching and shopping for a Latex Eastern King to replace to our 12 year old Simmons.  I have been mining the old WTB-M forum, and googling, and I've visited the 5 largest shops in my area.  So far, my wife is dead set against me trying to build out a set of cores at sleepez.com or the other online foam favorites.  So, that limits me to local stores.  The selection is pretty thin in mattresses with Latex cores - it appears to be Englander, Serta Vera Wang or Sealy Spring Free.  We did NOT like the Serta or the Sealy - all the models on the showroom were too soft and/or too plush.  We have seen an Englander that we liked - it was quilted, but it did not have a pillow top, and the support seemed just about right.  I'm aware of the bad reviews scattered around on the 'net about Englander quickly having body indentations, but it appears to me that many of those reviews are from people who bought "The top of the line Englander", and I suspect they bought huge ultra-plush pillow tops.  I wonder how the reviews would look for the non-pillow top Latex models.

 The Englander web site is useless - they don't even show the model names, let alone specs.  However, I did find the Englander mfr for SoCal, it is Medi-Pedic Bedding Co in Commerce, CA.  http://www.medi-pedic.com/  The only page on their web site appears to be the specs of the mattresses they produce. 

Looking at those specs, I think the mattress we saw and liked is probably the "Laytex" (apparently, they aren't wizards at product names) - it has these specs:

Laytex
6" core pure natural rubber (30 ILD)
Quilting material:
a Hollow Fill™
a Quiltflex™
Approximate mattress thickness: 9"
Comfort level: Firm                          Medium                          Soft
                              1     2      3      4      5       6      7      8      9      10

Or, it could have been the "Natural-Pedic":

Natural-Pedic
6" core pure natural rubber (30 ILD)
2" Flex 55 base material
Quilting material:
a Hollow Fill™
a Quiltflex™
Approximate mattress thickness: 11"
Comfort level: Firm                          Medium                          Soft
                               1     2      3      4      5       6      7      8      9      10

I'm planning to go back and get more detailed info at the showroom.

I dug around a bit and found this info on "Quiltflex":  http://www.foamex.com/quiltflex.php

I think "Hollow Fill" is probably good old polyester .  I'm assuming "Flex 55" is some sort of PU foam that is put on the bottom of the Natural-Pedic.

So - the quilted & hollow-fill tops have me a bit concerned - body indentations is the main reason we want a new bed.  The PU base is also a big red flag warning for me - based on what I have read here, I don't really like the idea of having the whole mattress based on a 2" PU base - wouldn't that be a recipe for break down?

My question is - are there any current owners of an Englander "Laytex" that can comment on how well their mattresses have performed?  Also can any forum members that are familiar with Englander Latex beds sold in SoCal confirm or deny the Englander Latex mattress models sold here?

Thanks!!!