ikea latex (sultan engenes) softer than expected
Nov 22, 2011 2:14 PM
Joined: Nov 22, 2011
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I'm concerned that my ikea mattress is both too soft and also softer than it was in the store. Please let me know if anybody has a similar experience, or any advice.

After sleeping on a cheap ikea foam mattress for years (sultan flataker I think), I upgraded to the sultan engenes. It's a 7-inch mostly-synthetic mattress rated "firm" which is ikea's medium level of firmness. In the store it was much more comfortable than the "most firm" sultan elsfjord which is only 5.5 inches. It was, however, softer than a pricier 8-inch mostly-natural latex model called the sultan edsele (also rated "firm," the medium level). The models in the store were placed on thin, springy birch slats.

To ensure a firmer feel (and save money), I got the wider, harder pine slates which are much cheaper. When I got the mattress home it felt much softer than in the store. After sleeping on it for a few nights, it still feels a bit too soft. It almost seems to sag a bit in the middle of the two halves of my queen frame, though they are half-covered in pine slats. My original mattress - the flataker - was also rated "firm" but felt anything but. It was hard as a rock. I never had any back problems from it, but I tossed and turned quite a bit. I stopped tossing and turning on the new engenes, but my back is a little sore (though it may be too early to tell).

I have a few questions. (1) How many inches should an average person "sink" into a medium/firm mattress? I sink about an inch and a half, and I weigh 165 pounds. Is this normal for a 7-inch latex mattress? I expected the engenes to be at least as firm as it was in the store, when I put it on harder slats. (2) Should I be able to feel the slats under my mattress? The engenes seems thin and soft enough for me to detect where the slats are, when I sit on the side of the bed. This is unexpected - I thought a latex mattress would be firm enough to prevent this. (3) Given that I can exchange this, should I upgrade to the 85% natural latex version, which felt firmer, and might be closer to my previous mattress?

Thank you for your advice. It seems that upgrading to a much more expensive, better-made mattress doesn't necessarily lead to a better night's rest.

Re: ikea latex (sultan engenes) softer than expected
Reply #4 Dec 19, 2011 1:15 PM
Joined: Nov 22, 2011
Points: 3
Thanks for your advice. Just for closure, I thought I'd post the rest of the story.

It sounds really counterintuitive, but the more flexible (sultan laxeby) slats actually make the mattress "feel" firmer. When you apply pressure, the slats give a little, but the mattress deforms less. Upgrading to these slats turned an otherwise lifeless mattress into a springy, comfortable bed. I would recommend that anybody getting a decent mattress (especially latex) spend the extra money and get the birch slats. The pine ones are only really good for very firm mattresses, which won't flex much anyway.

While the new slats made a huge difference, the engenes was still a little on the soft side. It wasn't any different than in the showroom, but I underestimated how important firmness was. I took it back and ordered the sultan edsele. Even though they are both "medium" or "firm" (instead of plush or most firm), the edsele is noticeably firmer. It also feels a bit more springy and resilient. It might feel firmer, but it still cradles you. The downside is that it doesn't have a removeable, washable cover (only cleaned with upholstery shampoo) and it's not reversible. Either way, it's a much more comfortable mattress for me. I would still recommend any of the Ikea latex offerings over a cheaper foam mattress. They're comfortable, more breatheable, they don't heat up, and they're way more affordable than those in other stores.

In any case, thank you, Jason, for recommending the slat upgrade. It was well worth it.

Re: ikea latex (sultan engenes) softer than expected
Reply #5 Dec 22, 2011 3:44 AM
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 Good move.  The edsele/erfjord is the only one of the three that's not roll packed too.  The flexible slats will help it last longer.

Please keep us updated with how it holds up.

 

Re: ikea latex (sultan engenes) softer than expected
Reply #6 Dec 22, 2011 2:18 PM
Joined: Nov 19, 2011
Points: 76
marshmallow wrote:

Thanks for your advice. Just for closure, I thought I'd post the rest of the story.

 

It sounds really counterintuitive, but the more flexible (sultan laxeby) slats actually make the mattress "feel" firmer. When you apply pressure, the slats give a little, but the mattress deforms less. Upgrading to these slats turned an otherwise lifeless mattress into a springy, comfortable bed. I would recommend that anybody getting a decent mattress (especially latex) spend the extra money and get the birch slats. The pine ones are only really good for very firm mattresses, which won't flex much anyway.

While the new slats made a huge difference, the engenes was still a little on the soft side. It wasn't any different than in the showroom, but I underestimated how important firmness was. I took it back and ordered the sultan edsele. Even though they are both "medium" or "firm" (instead of plush or most firm), the edsele is noticeably firmer. It also feels a bit more springy and resilient. It might feel firmer, but it still cradles you. The downside is that it doesn't have a removeable, washable cover (only cleaned with upholstery shampoo) and it's not reversible. Either way, it's a much more comfortable mattress for me. I would still recommend any of the Ikea latex offerings over a cheaper foam mattress. They're comfortable, more breatheable, they don't heat up, and they're way more affordable than those in other stores.

In any case, thank you, Jason, for recommending the slat upgrade. It was well worth it.


Rather than washing the cover while it is still on the bed, try and find a waterproof cover, Protect-A-Bed, Malouf and GBS all make a really good product that shouldn;t change the feel of your mattress (especially since it is not a really soft one) and will eliminate the need to possibly damage the inside of your bed with liquids and detergents... online will provide a MUCH better price for your cover than in the retail shop....
 

Re: ikea latex (sultan engenes) softer than expected
Reply #7 Jan 23, 2012 12:23 AM
Joined: Jan 22, 2012
Points: 5
And then you suggest washing the cover down occasionally? Windex it or something? Not sure I understand that comment about the waterproof cover. I definitely would be buying a cover myself (for bedbugs), but once that cover is on it should never ever come off the bed. 

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