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jimsocal
  
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Re: 800 Mattress Question - Serta vs Serta (2x cost diff?)
Reply #18 Feb 27, 2008 3:27 pm |
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I don't know how much Simmons may have improved in the past 10 years but I can tell you that as of 10 years ago, their springs were very lightweight (read: apt to lose their support) and tied together so precariously that moving the mattress around can totally wreck them (read: delivery guys can screw them up bringing them to you or you can screw them up moving them to another room, etc.) I was one of the original "Simmons haters" on this forum, as I had one that didn't even last a year before it was killing me (and that was before I had all these back problems from an accident, etc.) Read a lot of reviews and do further checking before buying a Simmons. I still say, go with strong springs (any brand that has decent springs), get the most ULTRA firm you can get (this basically just means "very little cheap foam padding" - as opposed to the pillowtop plush types which have "way too much cheap foam padding") and put your own toppers on top.
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novahelp
  
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Re: 800 Mattress Question - Serta vs Serta (2x cost diff?)
Reply #20 Feb 28, 2008 8:31 am |
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Just checked out the W Hotel bed. It seems ok. Not sure how to evaluate the Springs. Its amazing how different models with supposedly the SAME springs can feel DIFFERENT. I keep trying to incorporate that I will add my own comfort layers, but on some beds the springs were so hard it felt like a wood board! lol, why is this so hard!? :)
This message was modified Feb 28, 2008 by novahelp
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cloud9
   
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Re: 800 Mattress Question - Serta vs Serta (2x cost diff?)
Reply #22 Feb 29, 2008 5:54 am |
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Just checked out the W Hotel bed. It seems ok. Not sure how to evaluate the Springs. Its amazing how different models with supposedly the SAME springs can feel DIFFERENT. I keep trying to incorporate that I will add my own comfort layers, but on some beds the springs were so hard it felt like a wood board!
lol, why is this so hard!? :) Mattresses using the same coil unit feel different because of what goes over it. A mattress made with more precompressed material will feel much firmer than one made almost entirely of soft PU foam. And naturally the more foam the softer the mattress is going to feel no matter what's underneath it. I don't know how reputable the store you were shopping at is, but the one I bought my mattress from has an excellent reputation so I just told the salesman I wanted a mattress with a good strong coil unit. He showed me the cut away of various mattresses so I could see the gage of the steel inside for myself. The mattress I chose not only had good sturdy coils, it had more of them in the center third of the mattress to provide better lumbar support. Too bad they had to undermine all this nice support with cheap PU foam that only gets softer and less supportive as time goes by--but by buying a mattress with a basically sound support unit I know that I can replace the foam when the time comes and still have an innerspring that will last for at least twenty years.
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ottawan
Joined: Feb 29, 2008
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Re: 800 Mattress Question - Serta vs Serta (2x cost diff?)
Reply #24 Feb 29, 2008 5:55 pm |
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Dear mattress experts! Need your advice as I'm getting frustrated with the shopping for the new mattress. I keep seeing the advice of " going with strong springs (any brand that has decent springs), get the most ULTRA firm you can get (this basically just means "very little cheap foam padding" - as opposed to the pillowtop plush types which have "way too much cheap foam padding") and put your own toppers on top." I found this Serta mattress hotel series online at Sam's club and wondering if it's a right one. First of all it is double sided, means I can slip on both sides and it will require to flip it over from time to time. My understanding is that's a good thing. It is hard to find such mattresses anymore as the manufacturers shifted to non-flipping mattresses in the past couple years. Second, my impression is that mattress has decent springs and little cheap foam. Please, correct me and provide your comments if I'm mistaken. The bad thing is I cannot try it anywhere in the stores before buying. Here's the specification of the Queen size mattress (Serta Master Suite Firm): Mattress height - 10.5'' Innerspring: Coil counts - 800, 14 3/4 Gauge Continuous Wire Unit 6 Gauge Border Wire Quilted Panel 1 Layer of Pillo Fill Plus FireBlocker 7/8'' High ILD Convoluted Foam 1/2'' Quilting Foam Patented Advanced Comfort Quilt Construction Upholstery 1'' Firm Poly Foam Insulator Fireblocker Insulator Pad Ticking Designer Damask Here's the marketing broshure for this mattress http://www.serta.bc.ca/documents/MasterSuiteFirm.pdf Thanks in advance for all you input
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